Snow White from Snow White & the Seven Dwarfs is strong. She is feminists favorite punching bag, right after Aurora but at least every once in awhile someone will come to Aurora’s defense. Snow (and Cinderella frankly) are seen as what is wrong with the Disney princesses. Snow likes cute animals, cooking, cleaning, and a useless dwarf. She befriends seven strange men who end up saving her in the end. Dude, the prince just comes and kisses her. She is stereotypically feminine. She doesn’t go fight for her country. She doesn’t prevent a war from breaking out. Girl is nice to every single person she meets, even the woman who tried to kill her. She felt bad that she scared the animals when they found her crying in the woods. She is kind hearted. She wants to help everyone she meets. Her looking out for others is what got her killed.
All of that being said does not make her weak. Sure, she is a bit naive but she lived a rather sheltered life. The queen had her locked away doing chores all day. When she found out the queen wanted her killed, instead of standing in the field looking at the huntsman, she fucking ran. She ran away to protect herself. She left an abusive home (she lived with the queen in her castle). When she met the dwarfs, she bargained with them so they wouldn’t kick her out. She ran that house. She put the dwarves and animals to work. She was very sweet but she was also the head bitch in charge. Even Grumpy didn’t try to backtalk her.
The fact she needed the dwarfs and animals to save her doesn’t make her weak. Saving yourself is more than just killing the enemy. It is about surviving, which Snow White did. She may not know how to throw a punch, shoot an arrow, or save her country, that doesn’t make her weak. Not every woman can defeat their demons/enemies on their own. Some of them need help from their friends, which the dwarfs and animals were to Snow, to defeat their enemy and that doesn’t make them weak.
Also, girls who prefer Snow White to Merida are not weak or “too girly.” There is no such thing as being “too girly.” Not all girls are going to relate to Merida and that is okay. Not all girls are going to like Snow White. Some girls like both characters. There is nothing wrong with girls liking the classic Disney princesses. There is nothing wrong with girls preferring the newer princesses. What is a problem is when people try to deem what princesses are “good” or “bad.”
Honestly, bravo. This is one of the best posts I’ve seen on tumblr. I hate that people think Snow is weak because she doesn’t perform heroic acts and, like you said, is traditionally feminine.
She managed to escape from the Evil Queen, make the best out of the situation in the woods and befriended the dwarves, and eventually found her Prince and her happily ever after. There is nothing wrong with that.
Oh cool, I haven’t seen a side-by-side comparison of the new princess makeovers yet.
I’m still not sure how to feel….I absolutely love experimenting with re-designs, and I was tired of them using the same art over and over for the princess merch, but I am also a fan of classics, and I don’t see much to reflect these ladies’ personalities and ideals, or even something from their films, in any of these re-designs.
All the official Disney Princesses.
- The Ordinary World
- The Call to Adventure
- The Ordeal
- The Return
Looking through Mirror, Mirror’s photo gallery is quite promising.
The Kristen Stewart Snow White film is definitely winning all the popularity polls, and I won’t lie, I’m excited to see Chris Hemsworth in ANYTHING, and I’d love to see Stewy as a strong female character for a change.
But my expectations for Mirror Mirror are pretty darn high, and I don’t think people know why it stands a chance of being as good as the Huntsman one. Of course, there’s the possibility they will both suck, but at least Huntsman is guaranteed to earn money either way.
So the biggest reason I’m excited about Mirror, Mirror is that it’s directed by Tarsem Singh. Who did a little film in 2006 called The Fall, and it rocked my world. It was the most gorgeous, breathtaking film I’d ever seen in terms of production design, locations, costumes, and Lee Pace. And I fully expect Mirror Mirror to deliver on all those account, minus Lee Pace (but they do have Sean Bean, so it’s a fair trade).
Aside from that, just look at some of these pictures. It gets my fairy tale loving heart all aflutter. And I think it’s kinda cool that it stands out from the current trend of darkly themed fairy tale/Snow White media. But that might just be me.
Also, Sean Bean.
I just saw the trailer for Mirror Mirror.
It looks great. Just like the trailer for Snow White and the Huntsman.
But since trailers cannot be trusted, I can only judge them based on cast and crew.
And I’m going to say I’m more excited for Mirror Mirror than Snow White and the Huntsman.
Because first of all, “Mirror” has Sean Bean and Nathan Lane.
"Huntsman" does have Chris Hemsworth…but Kristen Stewart almost (ALMOST) cancels him out. BUT then again…it does have a damn good cast of supporting old dudes, like Ian McShane, Bob Hoskins, and Ray Winstone (and Nick Frost?!).
Alan Menken is doing the music for “Mirror”, but James Newton Howard is doing the music for “Huntsman”. So that’s a draw…two of my top five composers, and I could never choose one over the other.
But the biggest thing for me is that “Mirror” has Tarsem Singh.
That guy directed freakin’ THE FALL. Also The Cell and The Immortals, and say what you will about those two, but my point is he has vision and style.
What does this other director have?
Well…nothing. “Huntsman” is the only thing listed on his imdb page.
But you know, people gotta start somewhere, and he must have done something impressive to get to helm a blockbuster-y movie.
Obviously I will see them both, but I do hope this wave of fairytale-based films/TV continues until I can get a piece of it ;)
“I can’t watch the earliest Disney movies. I feel terrible, and I understand that it was a different time, but I just hate seeing women in those submissive roles”
I don’t understand this confession. Lady Tremaine is a woman and she wasn’t submissive at all, neither were the step sisters. The evil queen is a woman and she was not at all submissive. There were more women in non-submissive roles than submissive, as I pointed out. And both girls who are in the “submissive” roles break free.
^ THIS. And when Snow White broke free, she laid the law down on those dwarves. She was clearly running the show. And Cinderella was being abused by other women! Wendy and Alice are too young to make out one way or another their submission beyond their submission to their parents/elders. Mrs. Darling seemed to have a lot of say too. She knew how to get what she wanted and Mr. Darling certainly seemed to treat her with respect. Honestly, I’m having a hard time finding someone who fits the role of “submissive.” Aurora is only submissive to what the FEMALE fairies expect of her because it’s her royal duty to go back and be a princess. There’s a difference between responsibility and submission.
I’m glad most the responses have been pointing out everything wrong with this confession, because it makes me SO SO MAD.
It hits on two of my most hated things: hatin’ on old school Disney and the complete hypocrisy of new modern feminism. Okay, so if you don’t like it for the character designs or voices or something, then whatever. Different strokes. But because the women are in submissive roles? EXCUSE ME? Let us count the ways you are wrong:
- The underdog story is not only common in Disney, it’s a popular one in any medium. Male and female.
- I would hazard that the person who wrote this just loves “new” Disney movies. Well, guess what? Rapunzel was “submissive”. Tiana cooked and cleaned. And they both ended up with smarmy playboys, so put that in your moral pipe and smoke it.
- If you’ve ever actually watched Snow White, it makes it pretty clear she’s the HBIC. Heck, she’s more pushy than a pushover, bustin into someone’s house and telling them how things are gonna be from now on.
- Disney or real world, I respect anyone who can do any job, especially a crappy one, with a smile on their lips and a song in their heart. Lord knows I can’t.
- As the others above have pointed out, those oppressing the women in this are OTHER WOMEN. If anything, those early ones were not about men at all. They did nothing. Unless they were also minorities, like dwarves or fairies or deer.
- The feminism thing. Or more like sexism disguised as feminism. I could acutally go on about this forever, but for now, I will just go with how infuriating it is that SOMEONE SOMEWHERE decided that everything women used to do was misogynistic. Cooking, cleaning, wearing dresses, having kids, being nice and caring and nurturing: OH MY GOD HOW DEGRADING.
I will stop there since I am calmer now. Now excuse me while I go clean.
So I guess this turns into another reivew of Once Upon a Time.
URRG. I don’t know whether to find it irritating and amatuer or secretly genuis. My first instinct is the former, but I don’t know.
Okay, well basically, WAY TOO MUCH EVIL VILLAIN IN THIS EPISODE.
It’s only the second one, and probably 75% of the episode focused on the antagonist. Sorry, but shouldn’t we get to know the heroes BEFORE there’s even a hint of a heel-face-turn for the bad guy? So please stop shoving it in my face how misunderstood she because of her mysterious traumatic past.
Also, I misunderstood the show. I had thought it was going to be a rehash of original fairy tales, not Disney’s movies about fairy tales.
As far as I know, Maleficent is a Disney-only character, but here she is. Blonde…
…and fighting the Evil Queen in witch/wizard battle a la Lord of the Rings.
I guess Jiminy Cricket is a Disney-only character, too, and as others have pointed out, she wishes upon a star and there are dalmations and blah blah blah. So I can only assume the witch is going to team up with Jafar and Ursula and try to take over the House of Mouse.
Oh, the stupid witch also channeled The Chronicles of Narnia, which I guess could be counted as Disney, but that’s stretching it. She has an evil pow-wow in the forest and turns nay-sayers to stone. Okay then.
There’s a fine line between borrowing, or paying tribute to, and ripping off because you can’t think of anything original. Well done, writers of LOST.
I still can’t shake the feeling that it’s borrowing/ripping off Fables, in which the scruffy wolf-cop and Snow White fall in love. In this case, it’s a possible wolf-cop and Snow White’s daughter, but close enough.
There were some good things, though. Mostly the parts that didn’t involve the evil queen. So…25% of it.
Robert Carlyle is awesome. Obviously he’s having fun. When he’s Rumpelstiltskin he reminds me more and more of (infected) Don from 28 Weeks Later. I REALLY DO
not find him more attractive weird with each episode.
It looks like he’s going to be a big plot in the story, too, which is awesome because I wouldn’t complain if it turns out to be his show and not the witch’s.
Also, there was a unicorn. So I have to give them that.
Until next week, and let us hope it is filled with nothing but Robert and unicorns.